Monday 24 March 2014

Week 4: Vaccination - why we need it?

I’m almost sure that everyone who is reading this presentation has a small scar on their arm and I hope that you know what it means – you have been vaccinated. Have you ever wondered what it means for you and for the society? Do you really need it and why?

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What is really vaccination?

In overall vaccines are dead or inactivated organisms or purified products delivered from them. * Simply speaking we are injecting to our body dead viruses or bacteria! It sounds terrifying, but if we took into consideration how our immunological system works this seems to be logical. When our body gets such an injection it wants to prevent the threat of the illness by killing alien objects. Our body learns how to work with such a threat and when the next time it meets it, it knows how to cope with it – so you don’t get sick and die.
It seems to be simple, but there is always some “but”. We need to remember that we know how to cope with almost dead or inactive viruses, in most cases it does its work, but if we met active or mutated viruses our immunological system would not work and you would get sick. At that point  you may think that vaccination is illogical and you are right – If you were in a city where almost everyone is not vaccinated and sick there would be a huge probability that you would get sick too and no vaccination would help you.  I hope that you get my point – vaccination is most effective when all population is working together to get rid of some illness which means there is not too many of mutated viruses and active illnesses.


Proven Effectiveness
This topic is important so please go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies#Effectiveness to read more about it.

Is it safe?

No, it is of course not safe! There is always a risk of complications. Vaccines can contain additional components which make them easy to store and inject, but also can induce allergies. It is a fact, but it is also a fact they prevent from something much worse. I don’t want to provide pictures of examples of illness which you are probably free from because of vaccines; these are polio, cholera, influenza, etc. From time to time we can hear about and “old” illness which occurs in a modern city/country, for example:
At last but not least look at this map: http://www.cfr.org/interactives/GH_Vaccine_Map/#map It  speaks for itself.

Sources:
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

1. Would you vaccine your child?

2. What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated?  Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom? 

3. Do you vaccinate yourself against  flu? Why?

4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and  put in them something more dangerous?

13 comments:

  1. Vaccinating has always been a complex and controversial topic, but recently the society have to deal with a dangerous mania - a vaccinophobia - and this is a serious, super-scary thing.

    1. Yes, I would - well, I will - and as I'm usually very tolerant to stupidity, which I call "the right to have your own mind", I am deeply concerned about the children of vaccinophobic parents. Of course vaccines are the perfect way to make pharmaceutical companies super-rich, but they're also the reason why medieval diseases don't bother us anymore (well, one of the reasons). I've recently stumbled upon a very interesting post about this matter - a discussion with a vaccinophobic. Check it out: http://outstar.soup.io/post/413833705/geekygothgirl

    2. Everything mandatory is a violation of the right to freedom. Avoiding an important vaccination (but I wouldn't call a flu vaccination the important one) is a stupidity, but we can also get sick from rats easily, and we wouldn't kill the entire rat population. People should have the right to get sick if they want to, unfortunately.

    3. No, I don't. I was vaccinated against flu three times in my life and I had serious and long after-vaccine sickness every time - worse than flu. Seems that I'm healthier without them.

    4. Every conspiration theory that says "government wants us dead/sick" is nonsense - they want us to be healthy and long-living, so we can pay for their rents :)

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  2. 1. Yes, I would vaccine my child and in Poland it is obligatory in terms of the most popular diseases - I remember that I was vaccined at school against tuber-culosis and heine-medine. Tuberculosis used to be a lethal disease and only thanks to the vaccinations people managed to eliminate completety.

    2.There is certain set of diseases people should be vaccinated against - so yes. But considering question nr 3, very often big pharmaceutical concerns create the atmosphere of danger - everybody remember situation with bird-flu. My advice - be reasonable.

    3. I haven't been vaccinated against flu since 10 years I think - and I never got one. I think it depends on the strength of your immunological system and there are so many mutations of flu virus that I do not believe in getting vaccinated.

    4. It sounds too much like a conspiracy to me but, as I mentioned in question no. 2, pharmaceutical concerns want to sell as many vaccines as possible.

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  3. 1.Would you vaccine your child?
    As far as those tested vaccines are concerned, I mean all those which have been for many years obligatory for children, I'd definitely vaccine my child. I'd never vaccine my child against flu- just like Martyna Zych wrote, I heard of many complications worse than flu itself. If I had a daughter, I'd vaccinate her for cervical cancer, I didn't hear about any complications after that one.

    2.What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated? Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom?
    Maybe it is some kind of violation of the right to freedom.. I thought about it like that once, when I focused on those little scares on people shoulders. On the other hand, I have never heard about any consequences connected with anyone who didn't want to be vaccinated- why? Because most people want to live and be healthy- it's our instinct. When somebody wants to commit suicide he or she finds better ways than avoiding the vaccine. In Poland there are less obligatory ( reimbursed) vaccines than in many UE countries and in USA . In my opinion, that fact is closer to violate human rights.

    3. Do you vaccinate yourself against flu? Why?
    I'd never vaccine myself against flu- I'm not afraid of that illness, of that vaccine I really am.

    4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and put in them something more dangerous?
    I don't believe in any conspiracy theory connected with vaccines. All medical experiments has to take time, vaccines are always a kind of experiments on human beings. Maybe this is why we know a few terrible vaccine accidents – for some people this is enough to create conspiracy theory.

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  4. 1. Would you vaccine your child?

    I haven’t children yet, but yes. Just like Natalia wrote in a presentation: vaccination is most effective when all population is working together to get rid of some illness. If it were a matter of individual - one parent and his child - vaccinations wouldn’t be obligatory - just as there isn’t obligation to brush teeth. This is a matter of health of the whole population. If someone doesn’t vaccinate its child, is much more likely that my child gets sick(efficacy of the vaccines is approx 80-90%, not 100%).

    2. What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated? Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom?

    I understand doubts associated with the occurrence of diseases such as autism, because every parent trembles at the thought of their child's illness. But I‘m not an opponent compulsory vaccination. More worries me the human factor. The doctor who makes decisions about vaccination should perform a mediical examination. Check that, at the moment, there are no contraindications to vaccination. He should be sure of that. Unfortunately, I've heard that theory is one thing and practice is another. Parents should also be vigilant in this regard. The decision to not vaccinated child exposes them to the very real (not hypothetical) disease, which not so long ago, were the cause of death.

    3. Do you vaccinate yourself against flu? Why?

    I don’t remember that I ever vaccine myself against flu. I haven’t heard also about the side effects of this vaccination so taking into account the comments of others I'm glad I didn’t (vaccine against flu). Now I have to make up for gaps in my knowledge on this subject. To be honest I never considered flu as a very serious disease that requires vaccination.

    4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and put in them something more dangerous?

    I have to admit that about this theory I haven’t heard, but recently I've read about another one. Pharmaceutical companies occasionally cause outbreaks of infectious diseases in a few places in the world to scare the public. The effect of this activities are mass vaccination, in which pharmaceutical companies earn big money.

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  5. 1. Would you vaccine your child?
    I would vaccinate my child, and as I have a strong opinion on this subject - I'll tell anyone this - keep Your not vaccined children away from mine. Having this medieval mindset that vaccination is bad is just irresponsible.
    2. What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated? Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom?
    Vaccination is mandatory in most 1st world countries. There have been no scientific researches saying that vaccination is bad in general.
    3. Do you vaccinate yourself against flu? Why?
    Sure. I don't have any side effects so I do every year.
    4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and put in them something more dangerous?
    conspiracy theories like these are strong in one country in the whole wide world - USA. From personal experience I can tell You that most of "these" people are pure morons. But there is an upside to this fact. The less morons vaccinate the bigger mortality rate - they'll die out faster than the rest. Darwin rules.

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  6. @Martyna Zych
    Thank you for sharing an interesting article! I think more people should be informed about this matter, because from one side we have actions from ONZ to vaccine Africans childs and from the other vaccinophobia in modern countries.

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  7. @Tomek Kerber
    Being resonable is probably most important thing people could do when it comes to vaccines. Unfortunately pharmaceutical concerns are not charities and want to make as much money as it is possible.

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  8. @Maria
    Your opinion seems reasonable to me - to be vaccinated by vaccines which were tested for many years and are safe.

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  9. @Mariusz Sz.
    Thank you for sharing another interesting conspiracy theory. In my opinion it is irrational that pharmaceutical companies would do that, because if someone who was vaccinated (and I think most of us are) would get sick it would mean that vaccines are useless. So what would be point of vaccination anyway?

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  10. Yes when I was young, i had many vaccination. I think people try to find in vaccination some strange beliefs or religious disagree. For me this is science. Someone has developed technology that helps in 99% cases, and that's all. I dont ask I just use it. For me people who don't vaccinate for the most critical disease are just stupid group of people. What more they are dangerous for other people.
    Democracy is freedom, and democracy is set of rules. If we will not follow the rules we wouldn't say is freedom. It should be mandatory in most but it should be tested and we should be sure this is right. When I was young I was vaccinated for flu few times, but now I feel much stronger. I dont sick so often so it not so necessary in my opinion.
    Ignorance is the source of conspiracy theory, the second is conviction that people should always have own mind and should say it loud. What is all in all just stupid

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  11. It is a difficult subject…I think it is good to vaccinate a little baby, I would not be breave enought not to vaccinate my own even though I am not sure if it really works…I was really healthy and I vaccinated once for a one disease and then my health problems started so efinately now I would not vaccinate myslef for flu for example. It think it is so much better do take care of your body make it strong so it could deal with a flu on its own. I am not a fun of anitibiotics, I am convinced that people use them too frequently and as a result they demage other "parts" of their helath. I don't believe in such theory but I thinking that there is somethink going on in both food and medicine industry. They sell us crappy food so we would get worse and buy more medication…Call me crazy but food used to be so much better, I know there are aslo financial arguments, they want to product as much as they can in little period of time but still….

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  12. 1. Would you vaccine your child?
    Yes, I would. It's first time for me to even hear that it's such a serious problem to some people. But whatever, do what you want. As long as this doesn't involve me and my kids.

    2. What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated? Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom?
    If people don't want to be vaccinated then don't force them, instead make them pay even more for treatment of this particular disease. I think Martyna Zych is right. Everything mandatory is violation of freedom. But if we want to be secure and healthy then we have to deal with those mandatory things.

    3. Do you vaccinate yourself against flu? Why?
    I think I was vaccinated when I was younger. I get sick very rarely so I don't feel the need to.

    4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and put in them something more dangerous?
    Without good proof no one can say it's true. So I don't see the point in wondering about this.

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  13. 1. Would you vaccine your child?
    Yes.
    2. What do you think about people who don’t want to be vaccinated? Do you think that mandatory vaccination is the violation of the right to freedom?
    I think people should vaccinate themselves. Usually they are just uninformed.
    If a disease can kill person like child it should be mandatory.
    3. Do you vaccinate yourself against flu? Why?
    Yes, aways. After this theres a little chance to get ill. If do, its very light.
    4. What do you think about the conspiracy theory which says that governments /some-bad-guys want to vaccinate everyone and put in them something more dangerous?
    Its not true. Believe me my father is a doctor.

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