Sunday 15 November 2015

Week 7 [16.11 - 22.11.2015] The Mysterious World of Dreams




                Do you know what lucid dreaming is? 'Dream lucidity is awareness that you are dreaming.'
            Often after waking up from a dream we ask ourselves how we could not notice that it was a dream? Maybe this dream was about monsters or people with ears on their back. Seriously, it didn't seem strange to you? You had to wake up to figure it up? What if you can control your dream and be aware of everything?

http://www.memebucket.com/mb/2012/08/What-If-We-Are-All-In-A-Lucid-Dream-514.png

How to achieve it...
           
            There's a couple of ways to do that.
            Firstly: you have to start remembering your dreams.
            This is how: http://www.wikihow.com/Remember-Dreams
           Secondly: Do lots of reality tests. It means that during each step you have to check if you're dreaming. Small things are different in dreams than in real lives. For example, in dreams you can jump much higher, your clock can show: '27:82', you can even breathe underwater. You can look at your watch twice to check if you are dreaming.  Maybe it will show you something completely different at the second time, or it will show some strange symbols instead of numbers? Try to do these tests as many times a day as you can. And always ask yourself a question: 'Am I dreaming?'
            This sounds stupid, doesn't it? Yes, but that is why it's so brilliant. Next time when you will be sleeping, you will ask yourself the same question. Why? Because it became a habit to you.Now you will know when you're dreaming. So what? Do you need it?
My answer is - You don't! But have you seen the movie 'Inception'? It was fun creating your own world and location. You can do whatever you like, for example fly! Isn't that great? Now you will know how  it feels to float in the air.        
            More about LD and reality test you can find at:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming/Induction_Techniques
http://www.wikihow.com/Lucid-Dream
and youtube of course.

            Other things: LD could be also caused by meditation, special music or drugs.


Dreams come true!

            If you still think it's stupid and it's hard to achieve LD, then ok. Maybe it's not for you. But maybe you want to be more creative?
            During one night we have three, or so dreams. But we don't remember it (at least some of us).
            There's a reason to remember it:' [Stephenie] Meyer says that the idea for Twilight came to her in a dream on June 2, 2003. The dream was about a human girl and a vampire who was in love with her but thirsted for her blood. Based on this dream, Meyer wrote the draft of what became Chapter 13 of the book'

            'Buuu!!! We hate this book!' - someone can say.
            Ok, but: 'By November, Meyer had signed a $750,000 three-book deal with Little, Brown and Company'
            What I'm trying to say is: you can invent something new, create a game, mobile app or even write a book, it doesn't matter because.... all of it (or part) can be based on your last night dream. Want to know who else is rich/famous because of a dream?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/16/famous-ideas-from-dreams_n_4276838.html

https://magicalwonderings.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/up-movie-1.jpg

            If I'm writing about all of this stuff, I have to mention about OBE (Out-of-body experience). I've heard it's much more difficult to achieve it and some people thinks it's dangerous.
            Generally speaking, church considers OBE and LD  to be occult practices.
            Some people just don't believe in such stuff.


32 comments:

  1. Pretty interesting topic. I hardly ever remeber my dreams for longer than couple minutes after I wake up. When I start to conscientiously experience a dream, I know it's a sign that soon I'll wake up remembering only few things, barely an overview. For me it is like I'm forgetting something I was doing or somewhere I've been only few minutes earlier, that kind of feeling. And it's rather annoying.
    I enjoyed Inception movie very much and I'd love to do the things chracters did. Would be neat. :)

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    1. @Antoni forgetting dreams after a few moments after waking up is common problem. You can't get up from bed so quickly. You have to keep your eyes closed as long as it possible and don't move, it's sometimes impossible but try! Instead of getting up - start to think about every single dream and live it again. It's working.

      "When I start to conscientiously experience a dream, I know it's a sign that soon I'll wake up..."
      That's great news. Maybe it mean that lucid dreaming will be much easier for you. Generally it's much more easier to have a LD than stay in it.
      What I'm trying to say is, maybe you need try: 'Ways to prolong your Lucid Dream'
      http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/how-to-stay-lucid.html

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  2. I guess I will try it, it looks fun. I am a type of a man who sleeps a lot, but most of the time I do not dream, at least I think I am not dreaming, because when I have a dream I remember it, to the smallest details, hours after I wake up.
    But it's pretty funny, I had a dream, that I had been in my home city and I was being chased by a tiger. More funnier is the fact that everything looked like Van Gogh paitings, or like LSD trip, colorful and 'watery' if you now what I mean. But I had no time to realize that it was a dream, because I was chased and I only thought about getting away. So you now, it depends on context but it's pretty funny that we can not realize that it's a stupid dream.
    But remembering the habit of something could lead to something interesting, what if we can control our dream, or the events ? Maybe it could lead to some new kind of experience.
    I would like to try the OBE thing but I am a bit worried about this, because from what I have heard that it's really dangerous.

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    1. @Karol
      It is fun!
      I see you got the same problem as @Antoni (look up)
      If it comes to your dream - I know what you mean. I've had a really strange dream, about five months ago. My house was on fire. I've lost everything. Just sit and cry.
      Imagine my relief when I woke up. And my stupid look when I realized, it wasn't even my house (I've got different).

      Believe me, if you haven't got LD before, it will be amazing experience!
      My first idea was to fly. But at the beginning I was only able to jump really high (unfortunately, sometimes there's a lock on your mind. You have to be used to this)

      I don't have much of experience in OBE because I was also worried, and I haven't read much about it. I've heard only about 'sleep paralysis'. It longs a few moments but it's really scary. You can't move a muscle and in that moment you think: 'Shit! It probably permanent'.
      But it isn't. Paralysis can happen in OBE, LD or just during normal sleep (but not often).
      Some people think you can die in OBE. You can never return to your body. But I don't think it's true.
      Start from remembering your dreams. Secondly LD. At the very end, if you need OBE. It will be much easier in that order.

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  3. Michał Stankiewicz15 November 2015 at 21:25

    I think it's not that you can learn having lucid dreams, as it is strongly based in how one's brain works. People sleep differently, they dream to different extent, some people are not having dreams at all. I was born with the ability of having lucid dreams often and of course it is a great thing to do, having the control, being able to dream the dreams you want, change them, create stories and stuff. But it's often difficult not to wake up and the quality of the dream is lower, you can often wake up in the middle of night because you tried to change something. Dreaming is a complex process and in theory many of the brain's parts are disabled there. Trying to cheat the automatic process of dreaming demands a lot of effort and finally many people conclude it's easier just to sleep and not to try to dream their dreams. And creating own dreams is not easy, as there are really many connections in your dreams. For example creating a person in your dream is a really complex thing, you can spend a lot of time tryind to create, lets say, a sexy girl or whatever you would like to see and then be dissapointed as she'll behave strangely, or do some crazy stuff, like she'll be too flexible and bow >90 degree and you'll become like "wtf did just happened, no more of that dreaming". That can lead to another extent of problems, like traumas - 'I created these stuff', and not sleeping well - 'I don't want to get back there, that was sick'.

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    1. @Michał, I think that everyone have a dreams, but some people just don't remember it.
      I've heard about people who often have LD, without any effort, and they are asking: 'How can I get rid of LD'. They claiming it's hard to sleep well. You confirmed it.
      But! Some people would give everything for at least one lucid dream :)

      Your example (about sexy girl) reminds me game programming and rigging :)

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  4. Lucid dreaming is fascinating topic, but to experience it you have to train a lot, often without any results. Generally speaking, dreams are reflections of desires of our subconsciousness. Lucid dreaming overcomes barrier, which is we cannot dream about what we want.
    I guess that lucid dreaming can be dangerous to our brain, because dreaming is field to let our subconsciousness to go wild. Without presence of it, you can become a monkey with desires only :P

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    1. You don't have to train a lot to have your first LD. You can achieve it in one night (or two) but you have to be prepared: you won't be sleeping very good that night. 'One night LD' techniques requires getting up in the middle of the night.
      I don't think LD could be that dangerous. I've heard only about sleep paralysis. But I'm not an expert in this field.

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  5. Although I've heard a lot about LD and it seems to be great, I still consider it as a thing not really for me. I'm generally not really creative, so probably my dreams also wouldn't be that interesting. I don't really have very vivid imagination and I rarely experience dreams that I remember after I wake up, but when it happens I always don't want to get up so I stay in bed till late hours (that's why I actually hate having dreams, I strike out all my duties then). Few weeks ago I had a dream that I was in Dubai, on the top of one of the highest buildings. Till now, I can't stop thinking about trip to Dubai and it drives me crazy, because I can't really afford it now. So okey, it was really pleasurable to dream about that, but I'd rather like to experience it than dream about it. It would probably be the same with the flying etc. I would only get mad because it was just a dream.

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  6. 'I'm generally not really creative, so probably my dreams also wouldn't be that interesting.'
    You couldn't be more wrong! While you're dreaming, you have got so avant-garde thinking... as if you were completely different person.
    But I see your point. You have to know that, as there are methods for remembering dreams, there are also for throwing them from memory.

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  7. @Dann do you practice any of these methods? It sounds to me a little scary (but interesting) because I never remember my dreams. Never! sometimes I wake up with a huge pain and I realize that I just hit the wall with full force, but I have no idea why. What if all my dreams are frightening? Maybe then it is better not to remember what you dreamed of? Is lucid dream allows us to completely control what happens when we sleep and whether it is possible to unlearn it?

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  8. I had a few LD in my life, but now I'm focused only on remembering my dreams.
    Firstly: you always have control. You can choose to remember or not (dream). And also... you can unlearn LD. It's probably easier or harder for each person, but not impossible.
    I've heard about drugs that can cause LD. I think there are drugs with can block LD and dreams (that would be the best/easiest way).
    But... lucid dreaming can be used also in treatment... of nightmares. If you have nightmares you can control them in LD. I haven't try it, but I've heard it works.

    "Is lucid dream allows us to completely control what happens when we sleep...?"
    It depends. Worst case is when you know you're dreaming but you can't do almost nothing.
    In other case you can do whatever you like and you're in control. Best case: you control everything!

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  9. It's very interesting topic. I think that achieve LD is not so easy for most of people, so I'm really impressed that you had a LD's experience. It seems to be great. You can do many things you like or try new things, without any limits and consequences.
    I think that LD can give your subconscious a chance to give you pointers about conducting your day to day life. It is like having a consultation with an expert on you.

    Maybe someday I will try it :D

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    1. @Jagoda, it is great!
      Unfortunately, you're not always in total control of everything.
      About consultation with an expert.... I've heard that people can learn through LD. I even found an article about it:
      https://hbr.org/2012/04/practicing-in-dreams-can-improve-your-performance
      If you're interested?

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  10. I think that’s the very hard achievement to realize. In that article is written about what lucid dreaming is, but nobody tells how to wake up. That’s harder than achieve lucid dream. And also dangerous. I’m not recommend that, because after that dream you will be on a session in psychiatrist.

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    1. Sorry @Wojciech, I think I don't understand you.
      "nobody tells how to wake up" - like in Inception movie? :)

      When you're in LD, you've got problem to stay in it, not the opposite.
      If you have some more information about dangers of LD, please give me a link.

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  11. I used to try to have lucid dream. I used to read a lot about it. But I've never fully achieved it. I usually try to jump directly into a lucid dream just after falling asleep. Maybe it's harder then having lucid dream during the night. The furthest moment in "falling asleep process" while I stay conscious was the moment I saw flashes of places in front of my eyes and heard voices of people or places. Then the feeling of rapid falling down. If I'm not waking up scared at this moment, I fall asleep in earnest. Maybe if I hold on a bit longer, I will jump into a lucid dream.

    Reffering to OBE, there is one quite interesting fact I read about some time ago. I read that 2 people with advance knowledge and experience with OBE can meet together, during OBE, in a place they discussed earlier while being conscious. I don't know if that can be possible, but sounds pretty awesome.

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    1. Your technique of falling asleep and having LD, reminds me of techniques to achieve LD in one night.

      If it comes to OBE.
      Some people thinks that OBE is... LD :) They thinks that OBE doesn't exist.
      Two persons meet during their OBE? That proves OBE isn't LD. Because it's impossible in lucid dream.

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  12. The ability to control my dreams would sure be cool, but I think u need to have some kind of natural talent for it. I know some people who can achieve this state without any training, and me on the other hand - I'm just happy when I have any dream at all.

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    1. My opinion: Talent is only a predisposition to learn to do something better, or reaching for something faster. Meaning, you don't have to be talented to become scientist/ /writer/etc. Sometimes hard work can bring you further.
      I had to train to achieve LD, I wasn't talented.
      Remembering your dreams it's very easy (something about three days)

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  13. I read many articles about lucid dreaming but I've never had time to master this. It's obviously cool to have the possibility to fly or do something else that isn't gonna work in our world. I heard too, that during a dream we could practise our language skills or for example karate :)
    This picture you uploaded here is of course funny, but a healthy person doesn't have any problems realizing that he/she is in the real world and becouse of that inception is a little bit farfetched.
    I would like to add that our "dream system" is so created that in the future it would be probably possible to impose our brain to start "dreaming" and connect our dream to a "dream server" :).

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    1. About 'Inception'.... yes, it's fiction. LD works differently and it's much harder to achieve. After watching that film, you would think that waking up from LD is hard. And generally lucid dreaming is much more dangerous (in the movie).

      "Dream server" - that's interesting concept. I've read a sci-fy book in with astronauts before hibernation, were programming the dreams they want to have while traveling
      Maybe in the future, the 'dream server' conception will be used to play new generation of computer games :)

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  14. About lucid dreams i heard once , and i think it's interesting topic . Sometimes when i wake up , and i remember my dreams i have feeling ,that i was able to control everything , and i can tell that is strange but really cool. Sometimes when i go to sleep i have dream that i go somewhere , and i tripped somewhere . Really don't like this dreams , i know that many people have the same problem.

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    1. "Sometimes when i wake up , and i remember my dreams i have feeling ,that i was able to control everything"
      That's something I call Half LD. It's better then standard dreaming but... I think it's not control, because you only think that you had LD, but it wasn't LD
      Dreams in with you tripped? You mean, this strange feeling of falling down?

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  15. Dreams are very interesting, are showing what we are thinking, our dreams, but also different things, which we somewhere once seen.
    It is interesting, how quickly we can forget dream, if a moment earlier you remembered. You have to have dreams, because if we can't fulfilled, you can dream about them.

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    1. Yes, dreams also can show our fantasies. That's a new meaning of "Dreams come true". :)

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  16. Like most speakers, I believe that the subject is extremely interesting. With dreams we can fulfill our deepest dreams, even if the "real world" we would not have the courage.

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  17. Oh yeah, I can now proudly call myself a lucid dreamer, because I always wanted to learn how to control my dreams, and I pretty much achieved what I wanted a few years ago.

    It's always hard to start, and LD is definitely not for everyone, as it requires much patience and dedication to achieve the results. For now, if somebody is interested in lucid dreaming, I strongly suggest to firstly remember at least 1 dream per night, without that achieving lucid dreaming is nearly impossible because you may have lucid dream and not even remember it. There are many ways on improving one's memory regarding dreams, placebo works best, you just need to really WANT to remember dreams. Most people don't remember anything because they simply never wanted to do so, if you're really into learning LD, your subconscious will help you really quick, as long as you'll really want it.

    I don't like writing much, because I could write a book or at least a good article on learning lucid dreaming, so if somebody is interested, just let me know and I can share some tips or tricks, as they directly depend on what type of person you are.

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  18. Lucid Dreaming is interesting topic. I don't know why church considers LD to be occult practices. LD can be an amazing experience. This is a time when a person can live out their fantasies without any limitations or restrictions. Out of Body Experience is another interesting topic. OBE is considered by many to be dangerous. I read interesting fact that experienced people in OBE encountered various strange entities which are mostly hostile.

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  19. I’m definitely not a lucid dreamer as I’m not aware of anything when I’m sleeping ;). I don’t remember any dreams or anything connected with the time I spend on refreshing my mind. That can be a disadvantage as I’d love to try OBE on my own and can’t see the point of it if don’t remember anything on waking up.

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  20. Thanks for comments, guys!
    I see that if have problem with dreaming.... you should get tutorials from @Łukasz :)

    @Piotr, do you know why Church is against LD?
    You can read this: http://nonsensopedia.wikia.com/wiki/%C5%9Awiadomy_sen
    I'm talking about this sentence: "LD używa się głównie w celu..."

    Remember, if you want to remember your dreams, or achieve LD, It is possible!

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