I have to admit, I was shocked when I saw the photo with the vulture. I really condemn photographers decision to look at the dying child for nearly half an hour just hoping for a perfect photo. Its just exploiting a man's tragedy. Even if the photographer was driven by his passion and feeling of mission and not by money (I don't even consider this !) this was inhuman.
On the other side, war journalism Is extremely important because It raises world's awareness about the fact, that everyday thousands of people are suffering and dying.
The article mentioned the fact that the photo's author committed suicide. Mental problems caused by war is another kind of wound – the one that won't scar up easily. The similar situation took place after Vietnam War in late '60 when first soldiers were returning home – many of them were suffering from mental problems.
I've just heard about this group of photographer for first time and I think that there must be some kind of a line. I'm not sure how I feel about taking a photo of people who are dying instead of helping them. Journalist can make change with photos and books but it depends on content of these things. Not everyone has great talent to writing and picturing emotions.
Journalism is kind of profession. It is someone's job, that he or she is paid for and earns for life. But when you see that someone is in danger are you really so focused on taking picture, and how great it can be or are you a human that want to rescue innocent child? I can’t say that I am sad because of his suicidal death, because in my option he deserve it.
We may say that profession can say a lot about personality of the person and it seems to be true. The real question is what is the intention of such photographer. Is he doing it to show the problem and tries to help or he is doing it only for fame and prizes.
This is the wild wild world. I think that being a war journalist, or photojournalist, is extremely difficult, because you have to stop being you in some way, in order to keep the calm and report whats happening, even if it is the most dangerous time. Before they go out, they have to accept that this might happen, and make a conscious decision, whether to go or not.
1. It's really hard to answer that question clearly. It depends on the motivation of the photographer or the circumstances, where photo was taken. Probably some of the famous photographers want to show people how difficult is current situation in some regions of the world - society in many western countries won't even know about it without the information form journalists. On the other hand some of the photographers are taking the most controversial photos just to earn profits from that - as we can read in the article - photographer was waiting for the best moment to take photo and he didn't help the child. That's really sad and making the most of people upset.
To sum up - I can't find the clear answer for that question, we need information or photos from the most dangerous or poorest regions of the world, but we should help that countries, not making profits of it.
2. I think that photos and books, which are "describing" the situation in Sudan, Afghanistan or any other country or region with huge problems can help that regions. That regions are often addicted to our help and if society knows about their problems - the government shows more willing to help them - especially with programs, which are dedicated to create such regions opportunities to develop their economy, not just give out money.
1. What is your opinion on morality of war photographers ? Morality? You talk about morality of photographers? Do You even know what that means? I'm a photographer myself, don't mind me asking, but what is wrong with taking a picture? I would rather say that bad things happen all over the world, but it's not his fault or smth. Should I feel bad for taking a picture presenting something bad? I don't think so. Helping one particular person is not solving a bigger error. Don't blame and individual for mistakes of others. 2. Can journalists make change with photos and books? Like with photoshop etc?
War photographer is difficult proffesion. That person must have strong psyche because can die anytime. Many of them killed bravery because the best photos are usually on the battlefield. Question about morality is strange for me. We are seeing to computer screen and that photo is shocking but when we change the perspective to the photographer, what would we do? We don't know. Under pressure of time, when we could be shooted from every site instinct starts to work and think about do want we have to and escape.
I wonder what feels this photographer? Viewing someone's death, misery and only making photo.
In my opinion, these pictures show emotions. They allow people they do not all have peace, food and even family. If they don`t make these photo we only heard about hunger and war.
I just wonder the lives of people you see on the pictures is worth less than the photo.
I think that the posted photo is not the greatest example of the phenomenon. Of course, it's cruel, but the danger is not a "sudden" one, time doesn't matter THAT MUCH as is a different situation I've heard about. There was another photographer, Umar Abassi, who took a picture of a man who fell on the underground tracks. The train was approaching, but instead of helping the man, the photographer started taking pictures. You can find the photos here: http://www.imediaethics.org/News/3640/Clues_that_abbasi_lied_about_new_york_post_subway_photo_.php
There's nothing wrong in taking pictures of whatever you like - but making them INSTEAD of helping is a sign of cruelty and I think should be punished.
I would argue that we should not interfere in the mortality of war zone fotographers. They have there own job and soldiers too. If not war zone photographers we would have no access to what is realy hapenning at wars.
They saw too much human suffering, they were in dangerous situation every day. But they gave us an evidence of the past. AP photographers put their lives on the line to show the cruelty of war. Without photos, we have only written documentation. Photographers are important in every crisis situation.
War photographers should be very strong people because war leaves a strong impact on people who endured it. I think they would happily help all people they met on their way. However, they would not be able to do it for everyone. And it probably is destroying and killing them from inside.
This photo everyone knows. It causes a lot of emotion. Such photos encourage us to think about the injustice in the world. At the same time when we live under normal conditions, in another place on earth people daily struggle to survive. It is very sad.
War photographer is a very difficult profession. Every moment of their work can become something dangerous. Every war photographer should have a strong mental toughness, because the images they see are scary.
I have to admit, I was shocked when I saw the photo with the vulture. I really condemn photographers decision to look at the dying child for nearly half an hour just hoping for a perfect photo. Its just exploiting a man's tragedy. Even if the photographer was driven by his passion and feeling of mission and not by money (I don't even consider this !) this was inhuman.
ReplyDeleteOn the other side, war journalism Is extremely important because It raises world's awareness about the fact, that everyday thousands of people are suffering and dying.
The article mentioned the fact that the photo's author committed suicide. Mental problems caused by war is another kind of wound – the one that won't scar up easily. The similar situation took place after Vietnam War in late '60 when first soldiers were returning home – many of them were suffering from mental problems.
I've just heard about this group of photographer for first time and I think that there must be some kind of a line. I'm not sure how I feel about taking a photo of people who are dying instead of helping them.
ReplyDeleteJournalist can make change with photos and books but it depends on content of these things. Not everyone has great talent to writing and picturing emotions.
Journalism is kind of profession. It is someone's job, that he or she is paid for and earns for life. But when you see that someone is in danger are you really so focused on taking picture, and how great it can be or are you a human that want to rescue innocent child? I can’t say that I am sad because of his suicidal death, because in my option he deserve it.
ReplyDeleteWe may say that profession can say a lot about personality of the person and it seems to be true. The real question is what is the intention of such photographer. Is he doing it to show the problem and tries to help or he is doing it only for fame and prizes.
This is the wild wild world. I think that being a war journalist, or photojournalist, is extremely difficult, because you have to stop being you in some way, in order to keep the calm and report whats happening, even if it is the most dangerous time. Before they go out, they have to accept that this might happen, and make a conscious decision, whether to go or not.
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ReplyDelete1. It's really hard to answer that question clearly. It depends on the motivation of the photographer or the circumstances, where photo was taken. Probably some of the famous photographers want to show people how difficult is current situation in some regions of the world - society in many western countries won't even know about it without the information form journalists. On the other hand some of the photographers are taking the most controversial photos just to earn profits from that - as we can read in the article - photographer was waiting for the best moment to take photo and he didn't help the child. That's really sad and making the most of people upset.
ReplyDeleteTo sum up - I can't find the clear answer for that question, we need information or photos from the most dangerous or poorest regions of the world, but we should help that countries, not making profits of it.
2. I think that photos and books, which are "describing" the situation in Sudan, Afghanistan or any other country or region with huge problems can help that regions. That regions are often addicted to our help and if society knows about their problems - the government shows more willing to help them - especially with programs, which are dedicated to create such regions opportunities to develop their economy, not just give out money.
1. What is your opinion on morality of war photographers ?
ReplyDeleteMorality? You talk about morality of photographers? Do You even know what that means? I'm a photographer myself, don't mind me asking, but what is wrong with taking a picture? I would rather say that bad things happen all over the world, but it's not his fault or smth. Should I feel bad for taking a picture presenting something bad? I don't think so. Helping one particular person is not solving a bigger error. Don't blame and individual for mistakes of others.
2. Can journalists make change with photos and books?
Like with photoshop etc?
War photographer is difficult proffesion. That person must have strong psyche because can die anytime.
ReplyDeleteMany of them killed bravery because the best photos are usually on the battlefield.
Question about morality is strange for me. We are seeing to computer screen and that photo is shocking but when we change the perspective to the photographer, what would we do? We don't know. Under pressure of time, when we could be shooted from every site instinct starts to work and think about do want we have to and escape.
I wonder what feels this photographer? Viewing someone's death, misery and only making photo.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, these pictures show emotions. They allow people they do not all have peace, food and even family. If they don`t make these photo we only heard about hunger and war.
I just wonder the lives of people you see on the pictures is worth less than the photo.
I think that the posted photo is not the greatest example of the phenomenon. Of course, it's cruel, but the danger is not a "sudden" one, time doesn't matter THAT MUCH as is a different situation I've heard about. There was another photographer, Umar Abassi, who took a picture of a man who fell on the underground tracks. The train was approaching, but instead of helping the man, the photographer started taking pictures. You can find the photos here: http://www.imediaethics.org/News/3640/Clues_that_abbasi_lied_about_new_york_post_subway_photo_.php
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing wrong in taking pictures of whatever you like - but making them INSTEAD of helping is a sign of cruelty and I think should be punished.
I would argue that we should not interfere in the mortality of war zone fotographers. They have there own job and soldiers too. If not war zone photographers we would have no access to what is realy hapenning at wars.
ReplyDeleteThat topic reminds me work of Associated Press war photographers during The Vietnam War.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2441235/Historic-images-Vietnam-War-courageous-AP-photographers.html
They saw too much human suffering, they were in dangerous situation every day. But they gave us an evidence of the past. AP photographers put their lives on the line to show the cruelty of war. Without photos, we have only written documentation. Photographers are important in every crisis situation.
War photographers should be very strong people because war leaves a strong impact on people who endured it. I think they would happily help all people they met on their way. However, they would not be able to do it for everyone. And it probably is destroying and killing them from inside.
ReplyDeleteThis photo everyone knows. It causes a lot of emotion. Such photos encourage us to think about the injustice in the world. At the same time when we live under normal conditions, in another place on earth people daily struggle to survive. It is very sad.
ReplyDeleteWar photographer is a very difficult profession. Every moment of their work can become something dangerous. Every war photographer should have a strong mental toughness, because the images they see are scary.
Such photographs of us realize that in this world there are other places than the world around us. Photos show the problems of the world.
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