Due to the article and Tim Dowling utterance I am very negatively surprised by his opinion. His strategy is very unfair towards his wife and children. He does not seem to be responsible person. All actions are either done accurately or because of hidden purpose.
Lucy Mangan was considering employing a cleaner, however she has some doubts. First of all it costs a lot of money and what is the most important sometimes it is not safe. One of my family members employed such cleaner and after 2 years of cooperation she was robbed from jewelry and money.
Hugh Muir shows the traditional model were all responsibilities were shared between all members of family. The age-based hierarchy is commonly used till now especially in families with many children. In most of nowadays households we can find dishwashers and manual wash seems to be a distant activity.
Hannah Marriott is an example of the opposite of housewife. Failures in cooking and indifference concerning trash bins are unusual for a women. I consider her as a lucky girl since she managed to find the perfect guy who deals with everything she does not care about.
Alexis Petridis admits that cooking and vacuuming is a function made by his wife. In his opinion there is traditional gender line in division of housework.
From my point of view and experience I see the problem in sharing household chores by women and man. It is apparent that tasks connected with using strength or technical skills will be better executed by a man. In families where women is not working and her only responsibility is to be proprietress it is quietly obvious that the great majority of home responsibilities should be done by her. However in families where both women and man are working the household duties should be shared equally. I do not see the reason why one of the partners should do the majority of work.
I really don’t understand the problem, it's simple. Evaluate the time it will take you to do certain house work. Than multiply it by the cost of hour of your work. Now, you can decide if you want to waste your time on silly house works or pay someone to do it. If you can't afford a cleaner or a handyperson you move back to your parents or make your wife do it.
I agree with what Karolina wrote in her comment: Tim's attitude is wrong. He tries to avoid his responsibilities. I wonder if his children will behave any different when they grow up. I red the last paragraph by Alexis with a smile on my face because I think that a traditional division of work works fine in most families. In my opinion it is a wife's duty to keep the house clean and shining and a husband's duty to do everything that requires "manly" skills like DIY, although this division is not a rule written in stone. If any of them would need some help from the other... you know. I wouldn't mind occasionally helping with laundry or cleaning when asked to do so.
hmmm ... if it sounds to me that we live in the XXI century? In my opiii responsibilities should be divided in half. Women work as much as men. Why should not the same amount of time to spend on cleaning?
Woman to pots! thanks but does not live in the Middle Ages. And I will not run around guy who watching TV.
I honestly can not imagine live with a guy who can not clean up or cook dinner. Just, a woman can not be something without which you can not function.
I totally agree with Agata. It's just absurd to stick to the stereotypical gender roles in our times. When I and my boyfriend share chores, we do it equally. Of course, there are tasks that one of us prefers to or prefers not to do, but it has nothing to do with 'man duties' and 'woman duties'. He cooks, I clean up after the meals. He vacuums, I buy groceries. Just face it - most women have no problems with changing light bulbs, and most men can use the vacuum...
And, to the people who think it's fair to let women clean the house on regular basis and leave only the 'manly' tasks to men (like s9397 named them): take some time to consider how much time do you have to spend to clean the house every few days (vacuuming, dusting, washing the dishes, etc...) and how much time does it take to change a broken light bulb once in a while?... Do you really think that, assuming both of you work or study, it's fair to leave most of work to woman, just because it's 'women's job'?...
And to Mikołaj Zdunek, I really hope your comment is humorous, because otherwise it's just disrespectful.
I totally agree with Agata. Housework should be divided among partners. I don't think that it is right for women only to cook and do most of the housework and men to work hard and earn money and .... watch TV ? :D But I think most people hate to clean because they are too lazy for that. They look only for the easiest way to do it fast or not to work hard at all. They only clean somehting when they really have to, not when they want to. It always made me laugh when it comes to students and their finals. They do everything to avoid study. This is the only time in the year when students have such tidy rooms.
I don't think it's hard to share responsibilities around the house but I think that a lot of guys just don't have any house duties in their parents' house so they don't know how to cook, clean or do the laundry because no one EVER expected them to do something like that. Overprotective mothers make their sons an unattractive mate by doing everything for them and not learning them any useful life skills. I personally know men that are 28 and never had any house chores to do. I wonder what woman would "take" a man with no life skills or even will to do anything around the house. I feel that they just want to replace their mother with a girlfriend/wife. And let's look realistically. Who would like a guy like that? Women are looking for a partner in life not a child/pet to look for. It doesn't mean that every men has to know how to build a table. Fortunately women are completely comfortable with screwing a cabinet or chopping the wood if a guy cooks or does something that he likes/is good at. It's just about equality in sharing the duties.
Exactly, I agree with Paulina. Stereotypes are, sadly, part of our early education. Boys are taught to be strong and manly and that cleaning is a 'girly' thing. Some people won't believe me when I say that, but it is true - recently my younger brother's friend (13 years old) was asked by my mother to help with cleaning up the table after the meal. He said 'I won't, I'm not a girl'. That's really upsetting.
Due to the article and Tim Dowling utterance I am very negatively surprised by his opinion. His strategy is very unfair towards his wife and children. He does not seem to be responsible person. All actions are either done accurately or because of hidden purpose.
ReplyDeleteLucy Mangan was considering employing a cleaner, however she has some doubts. First of all it costs a lot of money and what is the most important sometimes it is not safe. One of my family members employed such cleaner and after 2 years of cooperation she was robbed from jewelry and money.
Hugh Muir shows the traditional model were all responsibilities were shared between all members of family. The age-based hierarchy is commonly used till now especially in families with many children. In most of nowadays households we can find dishwashers and manual wash seems to be a distant activity.
Hannah Marriott is an example of the opposite of housewife. Failures in cooking and indifference concerning trash bins are unusual for a women. I consider her as a lucky girl since she managed to find the perfect guy who deals with everything she does not care about.
Alexis Petridis admits that cooking and vacuuming is a function made by his wife. In his opinion there is traditional gender line in division of housework.
From my point of view and experience I see the problem in sharing household chores by women and man. It is apparent that tasks connected with using strength or technical skills will be better executed by a man. In families where women is not working and her only responsibility is to be proprietress it is quietly obvious that the great majority of home responsibilities should be done by her. However in families where both women and man are working the household duties should be shared equally. I do not see the reason why one of the partners should do the majority of work.
I really don’t understand the problem, it's simple. Evaluate the time it will take you to do certain house work. Than multiply it by the cost of hour of your work. Now, you can decide if you want to waste your time on silly house works or pay someone to do it.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't afford a cleaner or a handyperson you move back to your parents or make your wife do it.
I agree with what Karolina wrote in her comment: Tim's attitude is wrong. He tries to avoid his responsibilities. I wonder if his children will behave any different when they grow up.
ReplyDeleteI red the last paragraph by Alexis with a smile on my face because I think that a traditional division of work works fine in most families. In my opinion it is a wife's duty to keep the house clean and shining and a husband's duty to do everything that requires "manly" skills like DIY, although this division is not a rule written in stone. If any of them would need some help from the other... you know. I wouldn't mind occasionally helping with laundry or cleaning when asked to do so.
hmmm ... if it sounds to me that we live in the XXI century? In my opiii responsibilities should be divided in half. Women work as much as men. Why should not the same amount of time to spend on cleaning?
ReplyDeleteWoman to pots! thanks but does not live in the Middle Ages. And I will not run around guy who watching TV.
I honestly can not imagine live with a guy who can not clean up or cook dinner. Just, a woman can not be something without which you can not function.
I totally agree with Agata. It's just absurd to stick to the stereotypical gender roles in our times. When I and my boyfriend share chores, we do it equally. Of course, there are tasks that one of us prefers to or prefers not to do, but it has nothing to do with 'man duties' and 'woman duties'. He cooks, I clean up after the meals. He vacuums, I buy groceries. Just face it - most women have no problems with changing light bulbs, and most men can use the vacuum...
ReplyDeleteAnd, to the people who think it's fair to let women clean the house on regular basis and leave only the 'manly' tasks to men (like s9397 named them): take some time to consider how much time do you have to spend to clean the house every few days (vacuuming, dusting, washing the dishes, etc...) and how much time does it take to change a broken light bulb once in a while?... Do you really think that, assuming both of you work or study, it's fair to leave most of work to woman, just because it's 'women's job'?...
And to Mikołaj Zdunek, I really hope your comment is humorous, because otherwise it's just disrespectful.
I totally agree with Agata. Housework should be divided among partners. I don't think that it is right for women only to cook and do most of the housework and men to work hard and earn money and .... watch TV ? :D But I think most people hate to clean because they are too lazy for that. They look only for the easiest way to do it fast or not to work hard at all. They only clean somehting when they really have to, not when they want to. It always made me laugh when it comes to students and their finals. They do everything to avoid study. This is the only time in the year when students have such tidy rooms.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's hard to share responsibilities around the house but I think that a lot of guys just don't have any house duties in their parents' house so they don't know how to cook, clean or do the laundry because no one EVER expected them to do something like that. Overprotective mothers make their sons an unattractive mate by doing everything for them and not learning them any useful life skills. I personally know men that are 28 and never had any house chores to do. I wonder what woman would "take" a man with no life skills or even will to do anything around the house. I feel that they just want to replace their mother with a girlfriend/wife. And let's look realistically. Who would like a guy like that? Women are looking for a partner in life not a child/pet to look for. It doesn't mean that every men has to know how to build a table. Fortunately women are completely comfortable with screwing a cabinet or chopping the wood if a guy cooks or does something that he likes/is good at. It's just about equality in sharing the duties.
ReplyDeleteExactly, I agree with Paulina. Stereotypes are, sadly, part of our early education. Boys are taught to be strong and manly and that cleaning is a 'girly' thing. Some people won't believe me when I say that, but it is true - recently my younger brother's friend (13 years old) was asked by my mother to help with cleaning up the table after the meal. He said 'I won't, I'm not a girl'. That's really upsetting.
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